don’t get mad(der), just go with it

19 May

I am NOT going to get “Turkey Red”, that infamous oh-so-desirable shade of yumsh from madder.

As i said in a previous post, sometimes i think i could take purism too far and why would i then stultify things if i don’t get the results i was “supposed” to??

madder vat dean method

madder vat dean method b

madder vat dean method cIt’s all fine and dandy to say with one’s nose in the air “I ONLY use natural dyes/ecoprints/natural processes”, but one’s nose can get awfully full of shit at the same time when birds fly over (and there’s that walking into walls aspect also)🙂 If i wait until i get just the Right Red, i am never going to get this piece started!

Peaches, apricots, corals and pinks ain’t so bad, done in a cool “vat” as per Jenny Dean’s newest book. They are in the red family after all, and that is what i was concerned with. I’ll leave them another couple of days to see if any deepening occurs.

I want real red? I still ain’t going to get it, but this is okay too, from OTC dyes:

red otcObviously someone at the factory put plum in the cardinal red package and i had to scoot some scarlet in really fast to get a modicum of the colour i needed. The scarlet alone is too orange, might as well have stuck with the madder then, groan. Except i know i’m not equipped or knowledgeable enough to get a large piece reasonably saturated. I’m not worried about the separations of hue here or any of the accidental patterning, as the whole will be stitched within an inch of it’s cotton harem cloth life.

I started my stitching sample (I just KNOW this pic is going to incur a lot of hits)–the first area looked suspiciously like a ACK! Vagina!!! NOT what i was going for, despite the feminine aspect this is being sampled for!

oh oh vagina

Sweating a bit, and giggling nervously, i persevered and this is what i wanted:

sampling for red winged figureI have some actual red madder dyed cotton thread, bought from Indigo Moon a year or so back. On greyed cotton above, it shows pinker than red, but ya gotta go with what’s at the fingertips–maybe Karma is trying to tell me something. All of this embroidery will be on the red background, rather than a rusted one–i needed to see the effect with no interference from the chromaticity. I have a definite idea of the design, but perhaps all these colour adjustments are happening for a reason.

It is what it is. It will be what it will be.



4 responses to “don’t get mad(der), just go with it

  1. Pia

    May 19, 2014 at 11:38 pm

    I’m only able to get the Turkey red with tin mordant. Deeper with repeated heatings of the same dyebath several days in a row, 60 degrees, and not the powdered madder which is sometimes sold with clay in to stretch it…


    • arlee

      May 20, 2014 at 5:59 am

      i’ll see what happens with time, but i have no tin and won’t get any either. when i experiment later in the summer, i’ll try her crabapple suggestion.


  2. betty

    May 20, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    Need to go back to Michel Garcia’s notes… as far as I remember we got a red in our workshop. Though, not at the first time when he got rid of it and changed the water…


    • arlee

      May 21, 2014 at 6:42 am

      I think i did not get the little vat warm enough long enough either, and should have left it longer days🙂 I really should finish reading each paragraph!


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